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Halvor Fosli with a gloomy prediction for Norway: We are building an unsolvable problem

Halvor Fosli
COMPETITION FORECAST: Author Halvor Fosli has written: «Towards a national collapse». He believes that much of the weak Norwegian krone is an expression that the rest of the world sees the problems Norway is facing. Photo: Espen Teigen (Nettavisen)
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Nettavisen ØKONOMI 06.02.20 14:59 - Espen Teigen - 17 Sep. 2021 (or EPUB)

Author Halvor Fosli believes Norway is heading for the abyss. And that's the elite's fault.

" The ship of Theseus, also known as Theseus’ paradox, is a thought experiment that raises the question of whether an object that has had all of its components replaced remains fundamentally the same object. The paradox is most notably recorded by Plutarch in Life of Theseus from the late first century. Plutarch asked whether a ship that had been restored by replacing every single wooden part remained the same ship. And the answer is NO."

CAFÉ CHRISTIANIA, OSLO (Nettavisen): Inside the venerable café we meet a slender man. He is exactly the age where one does not yet dare to call him "older".

With classic furniture, large chandeliers and walls filled with advertisements from the early 20th century, we are ready to talk about his latest book: Towards a National Collapse.

Halvor Fosli is 58 years old and from Dalen in Telemark. It is heard in the dialect, but after a generation in the Oslo cauldron, Fosli has also felt the consequences of Oslo's sharpening of the dialect.

His previous book was a success. With the title "Stranger in your own country" , there were probably many who opened their eyes in 2015.

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Stranger in own country

The book wanted to bring out the voices of ethnic Norwegians who had experienced immigration to Groruddalen. A place where Norwegians in large numbers have moved from, as the immigrants moved in.

According to figures Dagbladet was able to present late last year, seven out of ten newborn children in Groruddalen had an immigrant background. Up from four out of ten in the year 2000.

- I tried to present the natives' own experience, says the author.

This time, Fosli has gone from looking at the consequences for a district, and moved on to what he calls a national collapse.

- Norway is becoming a completely different place, and it is happening at a pace without historical parallel, says Fosli.

Against national collapse

Title: Towards a National Collapse
Author: Halvor Fosli
Publisher: Document
Publication: 2019

Fosli had an idea to do interviews with civil servants and women who work directly in the refugee service around Norwegian municipalities. It went well, until the interviews were to be approved.

- It was very difficult. There is a lot of confidentiality, and although people could be anonymous, they were worried. I, therefore, took what I could of the material, and changed the book to become a more comprehensive book about the major problems Norway is facing as a welfare and nation-state.

Most people said almost the same thing anyway. Things that are no longer as new as they may have been ten years ago.

Halvor Fosli
AUTHOR: Halvor Fosli thinks carefully when he answers serious questions about Norway's future. Photo: Espen Teigen (Online newspaper)

- Most expressed the same frustration. It is difficult to integrate people from the third world into a post-industrial society with very high demands on competence. It became very repetitive.

Fosli believes the municipalities have been given an impossible task.

- Making refugees productive citizens is incredibly difficult. It mostly ends up with most people switching to other benefits, or outcompeting Norwegian labor, which would also be dependent on wage subsidies, says Fosli.

But back to the book with the powerful title.

- What are you putting in a national collapse?

- Ever since Harald Hårfagre, we have had a nation-building. We went from being a kind of clan or Viking society to becoming a country based on a national feeling that brings together everything from the North Cape to Lindesnes.

- Now that way of thinking seems to be counteracted - and we are heading towards a collapse as a nation state. Norway as a state can survive, but then as something other than what we were.

For Fosli, Norway will in the future look more like Bosnia or Lebanon.

- The nation-building over a thousand years has in the last 20-30 years been counteracted by the idea of ​​building a multicultural state, where we make it easy for people to develop their culture and their distinctive character. Assimilation is seen as racism, he says.

Assimilation is the practice where immigrants who move to a new country seek to become as similar as possible to those who already live there. Both in culture, language and behavior. The proportion who marry out of their own ethnic group is a good indicator of assimilation, Fosli believes.

- If the current rate of immigration continues, Norway will become a state for different groups. We are no longer the Norwegian people, but the majority population. Then the national project is given up.

- So you want to stop all asylum immigration?

- Yes. I believe we should no longer process asylum applications in Norway. We do not have neighboring countries that are insecure. Everyone who applies for asylum in Norway, so to speak, comes through many safe third countries. Those who do not have valid entry documents should be rejected at the border, says Fosli.

Fosli believes that it is the Norwegian elite consisting of politicians, bureaucrats and a good number of researchers who are behind the ruling mindset. In his eyes, most things should be turned upside down, and put the brakes completely on almost all immigration from non-western countries.

On Monday 3 February, Statistics Norway (SSB) presented an analysis of family immigration in the years 1990-2019.

During the period, 312,000 people have been granted residence in Norway through family reunification and other family immigration.

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- How to become like Bosnia?

The great political scientist Francis Fukuyama set up Denmark as the great ideal, with the text: "How to become like Denmark". By that, Fukuyama meant a trust-based society with great wealth, little crime, a lot of tax will, a big public state and a free society.

- I turned it around a bit: What does it take to be like Bosnia? - if we do not change course.

- In my opinion, one way to do that is through a headless immigration policy. In that way, Norway will become more like a kind of federation with much less community.

And Fosli believes the ultimate price will go beyond those who usually want a liberal immigration policy.

- It is a characteristic of countries that are not nation states that it becomes more difficult with joint solutions such as publicly paid schooling and health care.

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The problem

After interviewing a number of people in the refugee service, who work every day to integrate refugees and immigrants, Fosli believes it is clear that the system itself is a big part of the problem.

When a refugee is granted residence in Norway, they start in the introductory program. There, the refugee is paid up to two years to learn Norwegian, social studies and learn how to become an integral part of society.

- The introductory program is a salary for learning social studies and language. I do not know of any other country that has such generous schemes as Norway. This is normally something people have to teach themselves at work or in a social context. There is obviously a clientification.

He believes it is idealistic and naive to believe that one can manage to integrate a large number of people with non-Western backgrounds into Norwegian society.

- There is something idealistic and vain about the Norwegian refugee regime. We have more money than we have good ideas. We can afford to create a kind of artificial sector that consists of the refugee agency and other public enterprises. Thousands of people are employed in the refugee service, adult education, NAV, asylum reception, the interpreting service, the immigration administration and so on.

- It does not exactly contribute to the real economy, so to speak. But it keeps employment up. I think a lot of the blame for the ever-increasing use of oil money is to cover this deficit. Immigration-related costs are an increasing part of the public economy, Fosli claims, and refers to Statistics Norway figures that have been much debated.

- So you think Norway has bought itself out of the problem because we are richer than others?

- Yes. Swedish state and municipal finances are under strong pressure. And there will probably be even more cuts and reforms in the neighboring country. In the long run, this could also affect Norway.

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In recent years, several Swedish media have written about the strong pressure on the municipal economy, which has struggled to provide enough school places - health services and other statutory services that the municipalities must offer.

- Other countries see our problem

Halvor Fosli
COMPETITIONS: The author has few positive predictions about Norway, but promises that it is possible to do something about it. Photo: Espen Teigen (Online newspaper)

Fosli believes that the problem is on its way across the border to Norway, and that the weaker krone is a sign of that.

- Abroad sees that Norway is building a problem we do not have a solution to. At some point we will get the bill for it. Whether it is in a fall in house prices or a sharp increase in unemployment or both and more, he says.

Fosli's book is a gloomy reading, with 400 pages about Norway, culture, immigration and the future of the country. With chapters such as "Sweden shows what we have in store" and "We are at the end of the road", there are few bright spots in the book.

- Is there anything that can be done?

- The book mainly describes the path we have behind us and what probable consequences a continued large-scale immigration combined with an awkward integration policy will have. But my argument leads to some conclusions: Restructuring the asylum system, making citizenship something far loftier, and reducing family immigration.

- There is a desperate need for assistance with schooling at all levels, creating jobs and building infrastructure. Most refugees must return to their home country. So there is a lot that can be done, says Fosli.

- Do you see any positive aspects of immigration in the last 20 years?

- Yes, at the individual level it is. But at the societal level, greater problems and costs have been accumulated than gains. The 1990s can probably be considered the golden age. a happy, optimistic time, when many Norwegians felt like cosmopolitans. But now the time for carnival is over, and we are over in the era of immigration accounts and crime statistics. Then we must take a breather and reorient the policy.

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WHO and WHAT is behind it all ? : >

The bottom line is for the people to regain their original, moral principles, which have intentionally been watered out over the past generations by our press, TV, and other media owned by the Illuminati/Bilderberger Group, corrupting our morals by making misbehavior acceptable to our society. Only in this way shall we conquer this oncoming wave of evil.




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